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	<title>Comments on: In Which the Pirate Knits Where She Should Have Purled.</title>
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		<title>By: Lissa</title>
		<link>http://knittingpirate.com/2007/11/15/in-which-the-pirate-knits-where-she-should-have-purled/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Lissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 03:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t copy patterns for friends from books. I do lend the books&quot;

Good. The law says you can do that.  I never said the entire set of copyright laws make sense - they just are what they are. And people can argue and come up with comparisons forever.  Doesn&#039;t change the law, which states clearly, (paraphrasing, of course) &quot;You want it? Buy it or borrow it from the library or a friend.&quot;  None of the many exceptions applies to informal knitting groups. 

Unfortunately, &quot;society&quot; these days is &quot;if I want it, I take it,&quot; which is why I&#039;m unsubtle about making the &quot;no stealing patterns&quot; policy clear in my group, nor can I participate in a group where that isn&#039;t made clear, especially since patterns have already been copied and distributed illegally in that group and I was the only person to speak up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t copy patterns for friends from books. I do lend the books&#8221;</p>
<p>Good. The law says you can do that.  I never said the entire set of copyright laws make sense &#8211; they just are what they are. And people can argue and come up with comparisons forever.  Doesn&#8217;t change the law, which states clearly, (paraphrasing, of course) &#8220;You want it? Buy it or borrow it from the library or a friend.&#8221;  None of the many exceptions applies to informal knitting groups. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, &#8220;society&#8221; these days is &#8220;if I want it, I take it,&#8221; which is why I&#8217;m unsubtle about making the &#8220;no stealing patterns&#8221; policy clear in my group, nor can I participate in a group where that isn&#8217;t made clear, especially since patterns have already been copied and distributed illegally in that group and I was the only person to speak up.</p>
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		<title>By: NiteOwl</title>
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		<dc:creator>NiteOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with copyright laws is that there is a gray area.  &quot;Fair use&quot;, particularly for an SnB group that teaches beginning knitters, makes this grayer still.  There is some flexibility extended for educational purposes provided you abide by certain guidelines, including but not limited to &#039;no profit&#039; based on the pattern. If one distributes a copy of the modifications made to the original pattern is that an infringement or a new pattern or merely notes?  If one takes a unique, documented stitch pattern and publishes that as a design swatch without giving credit, is that an infringement?  There are numerous examples of that on the shelve of every bookstore. How much of a significant change qualifies as a new pattern?  Do you violate copyright if the basis of one pattern is the springboard of a new one (ie using &#039;wheels&#039; to construct a &#039;cart&#039;)?  Although many would believe this is a black and white issue, the amount of litigation makes it clear that it is not.  It may boil down to intent and that isn&#039;t clear here. 

I don&#039;t copy patterns for friends from books.  I do lend the books because I know many are out of print, hard to find, or expensive.   Rather than a copy of a CD...what springs to mind as a closer comparison is a copy of recipe out of a book.  How often do people do that?  Is it yours if you substitute carrots for green beans in a soup or modify the spices? If nothing could be dispersed without owning a copy, how bland would our diets be...which is why education gets the nod and the rules are not black and white so we as a community and society can move forward.  I don&#039;t have an answer to this.  I personally believe that  &quot;respect&quot; should be the guiding rule both for the intellectual property and the people involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with copyright laws is that there is a gray area.  &#8220;Fair use&#8221;, particularly for an SnB group that teaches beginning knitters, makes this grayer still.  There is some flexibility extended for educational purposes provided you abide by certain guidelines, including but not limited to &#8216;no profit&#8217; based on the pattern. If one distributes a copy of the modifications made to the original pattern is that an infringement or a new pattern or merely notes?  If one takes a unique, documented stitch pattern and publishes that as a design swatch without giving credit, is that an infringement?  There are numerous examples of that on the shelve of every bookstore. How much of a significant change qualifies as a new pattern?  Do you violate copyright if the basis of one pattern is the springboard of a new one (ie using &#8216;wheels&#8217; to construct a &#8216;cart&#8217;)?  Although many would believe this is a black and white issue, the amount of litigation makes it clear that it is not.  It may boil down to intent and that isn&#8217;t clear here. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t copy patterns for friends from books.  I do lend the books because I know many are out of print, hard to find, or expensive.   Rather than a copy of a CD&#8230;what springs to mind as a closer comparison is a copy of recipe out of a book.  How often do people do that?  Is it yours if you substitute carrots for green beans in a soup or modify the spices? If nothing could be dispersed without owning a copy, how bland would our diets be&#8230;which is why education gets the nod and the rules are not black and white so we as a community and society can move forward.  I don&#8217;t have an answer to this.  I personally believe that  &#8220;respect&#8221; should be the guiding rule both for the intellectual property and the people involved.</p>
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		<title>By: The Knitting Pirate &#187; In Which the Pirate is Thankful.</title>
		<link>http://knittingpirate.com/2007/11/15/in-which-the-pirate-knits-where-she-should-have-purled/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>The Knitting Pirate &#187; In Which the Pirate is Thankful.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote, &#8220;You do not condone photocopying of patterns, yet you do not have the same issues sharing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pirate Husband</title>
		<link>http://knittingpirate.com/2007/11/15/in-which-the-pirate-knits-where-she-should-have-purled/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Pirate Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do not condone photocopying of patterns, yet you do not have the same issues sharing music...  I have to ask why is one ok but not the other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do not condone photocopying of patterns, yet you do not have the same issues sharing music&#8230;  I have to ask why is one ok but not the other?</p>
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